The Dev Morning Show (At Night)

Finale: Coolest Tech, Memorable Guest Quotes, and Funny Moments with Cassidy & Zach

Episode Summary

It’s the finale episode of The Dev Morning Show (At Night)! We’re finishing out the season by looking back at the coolest old tech we saw, most memorable guest quotes, and funny moments that you may not have seen before!

Episode Notes

It’s the finale episode of The Dev Morning Show (At Night)! We’re finishing out the season by looking back at the coolest old tech we saw, most memorable guest quotes, and funny moments that you may not have seen before!

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Episode Timestamps:

(01:04): Cassidy and Zach discuss their favorite part of The Dev Morning Show (At Night)

(03:55): Favorite old tech moments

(14:15): Memorable guest quotes

(27:44): Funny moments

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“​​It's an ever-growing industry where there's so much knowledge out there and a lot of people may not be up to date on, ‘What is the latest, greatest way to do things?’ Or, ‘What is the latest and greatest tech?’ It's good to be compassionate and understand people's viewpoints and where they're coming from. It just helps everyone, at least from a learning perspective, just grow better.” – Zach Plata

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Episode Transcription

Cassidy Williams: Hello everybody and welcome to the finale episode of The Dev Morning Show (At Night). My name is Cassidy Williams and I'm accompanied as always by my wonderful, talented, delightful co-host, Zach Platter. Hey, Zach. 

Zach Plata: Hey, guess is so. Bittersweet to have like the end of this season. Um, 

Cassidy Williams: I know. How are you feeling?

Yeah. and end of an era. It's, I feel like we've seen so many cool people and gotten to chat about so many fun projects and everything. It's been a blast. I've enjoyed it. I don't know about you, but it's been fun, . 

Zach Plata: Oh, yes. Oh, it's been so fun, . Yeah. I'm excited to dig into some of those moments, . 

Cassidy Williams: Yeah. And so today we're gonna take a look back at some of our favorite moments from the show, some of some cool old tech that we saw that people still owned, and uh, also some bloopers that you might not have seen before.

Um, but first, Zach, what has been your favorite part of the. 

Zach Plata: obviously doing this with you, Cass. What? , um, what Same with you, um, but also really just, um, getting to know how people came into the industry, I think, um mm-hmm. , there's a lot of people Yeah. That, you know, it was crazy that they are where they are now and just either started programming in the pandemic when things kind of turned to poop or, you know, have been tightens in the industry for years and years.

And, um, just seeing how, you know, where they got to be founders or really high level, uh, engineers and, and tech leads and stuff. . It's, it's always fun hearing those stories. How about yours? 

Cassidy Williams: It's inspiring. It's so cool. I think for me, I've really loved seeing just what project ideas and domain names people squat on.

I didn't expect to enjoy that one as much. I, I remember when we first like wrote that question, I mostly just wanted to roast people for squatting on domains because I do the same thing. But some people have some. ideas and projects and things and, and I've really just enjoyed seeing like, which ones are things that they're actually working on.

Which ones are ones that they wanna work on. And, uh, I, I like hearing those cuz you also kind of think about and get to see what makes people tick and what gets people excited because it's a side project, it's something that they wanna do. 

Zach Plata: Nice. Mm-hmm. . Exactly. I feel like most people, you know, uh, we'll have a lot of conversations about like work things, but this is really, it was nice to hear how, you know, people have these side project ideas that they want to do and hopefully we'll see some of them come to fruition.

I think a few of them are like, oh, well we need to like track that and follow . 

Cassidy Williams: I liked some people where they're just like, well, now that this episode is coming out, I guess I have to do it. . 

Zach Plata: True. True. Yeah. We provide the motivation. . 

Cassidy Williams: Exactly. I've definitely gotten some domain names as a result of some of the episodes.

Have I built anything with them? Mm-hmm. ? No, but the idea, , the idea is present. 

Zach Plata: That's all you need. Yeah. And now for the last time, LaunchDarkly, The Dev Morning Show (At Night) is a sponsored podcast, means someone has to pay the bills around here we're sponsored by LaunchDarkly, and LaunchDarkly is the first scalable feature management platform.

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Cassidy Williams: once again, LaunchDarkly.

Thanks again, . It's been a blast. All right, let's get into this. We always talk to our guests about what their oldest piece of tech is, and we have had a wonderful display of show and tell over the season. Let's take a look.

Chloe Condon: My oldest piece of technology is my Teddy Ruxpin. with both tapes if you can believe.

Um, it's not super operational, like his mouth doesn't move, but it'll play the tapes. So I'm thinking of making a taxidermy out of this . 

Jeri Ellsworth: This 

might be one of the oldest pieces I have in the office. So this is a core memory stack from a CDC mainframe. So this is core memory. I don't remember how many bits of memory it is, but I can see down in there the cores are 

really big.

So this is just. 

Probably the icon to launch your web browser on your desktop has more storage 

Alexis Morin: than this. I have a vcr, 

um, that I fished out of the in-laws like basement. , uh, I think there's a tape stuck inside of it. A lot of these were like to try to view old 

tapes that 

like family videos, um, 

that my dad was cleaning out when he sold, 

uh, my childhood home.

Suz Hinton: So I think I have like an original game boy in there and an anari, but I actually think I have something older. , which is this little guy here. I'll do the, the makeup brush kind of technique. So this is a vacuum tube from the seventies. Um, I think this one was made for the French military, and this will make so much sense in a second, I promise.

So I have two, I have two of these that I specifically ordered online. I specifically wanted these muled ones, which again, um, Were produced by the UK in the seventies for the French military, and you used them these days on tube rolling your headphone apps. 

Anjana Vakil: So I have all of these old phones, including check this little guy out.

This is flip phone. That still works by the way. Um, for, um, I don't know. It must have been like 20. Sometime like 2010 to 2012 ish, I would say. But like this thing has, there's apps on here. I had forgotten that this was a thing, but before smartphones, you know, you'd have like little email apps and there's even Twitter on this thing, which I think is just hilarious.

So that's fun. And Reer stickers of course, but that's not even the oldest phone I own. So fun little pandemic project I did early, uh, lockdown. I built , a landline, like C through , A phone that I, I went on eBay and bought from the nineties. A like diy, build your own phone kit. All right. Some of this tech was, uh, older than we are, first of all, which, and, and also I think Chloe's Teddy Ruxpin kind of haunted me a little bit.

Besides that there was really cool. Yeah. Good nostalgia. 

Zach Plata: Yes, I for sure. Related to the old flip phones. I feel like that's something. I've never thrown away and I don't know why I can't . 

Cassidy Williams: They're, they're just so good. And I'm glad that flip bones are kind of coming back now too, cuz I, it's really satisfying to just hang up and snap it closed.

We, we gotta bring 

Zach Plata: that back. Mm-hmm. . Yeah. The, with the flip phones. I just remember the craze like, um, When we were in like grade school and everyone was just like, do you have the newest razor phone? Do you have this fancy color? Um, and I feel like, what, 20 years from now, they're gonna be like, oh my gosh.

Do you remember? iPhones, . I know. And it'll be some, some 

Cassidy Williams: new thing people cared about iPhone versus Android and stuff. Ah, I also really appreciated that Suz had that vacuum tube for her audio set. Mm-hmm. , and she was like, I'm not an audio file, but, and then proceeds to explain the most like legit setup I've heard

Zach Plata: Seriously. I, I did not quite understand all of that, but I. . Respect. Respect. Yeah. 

Cassidy Williams: That's major respect. That's awesome. So what's the oldest piece of tech you on? 

Zach Plata: Zach? I will have my flip phone somewhere in storage. Mm-hmm. . But probably the closest thing to me right now, because I've just thrown it in a junk pile nearby, is my, um, PlayStation three, uh, controller.

Now that PS five has gained all the traction. , all the games coming out. I'm like, I don't know why I kept this. I don't have a PS three I think, but, um, there's a controller , how about you? 

Cassidy Williams: There's also, there's also something to be said about the fact that the design for the controllers hasn't really changed overall 

over years.

Zach Plata: Truly. Yeah, 

Cassidy Williams: I love it. Found something at work and stuck with it. . I am pretty sure I have a game boy color somewhere in my home, but I couldn't find it. But I could find my graphing calculator that I used in high school and, oh man, it's still, oh, I was about to say it still works. I think I need to change the batteries , but I still, I have used it in the past year.

I still use a calculator on occasion for, for things when it's like just a little more. basic math and stuff. Mm-hmm. , I don't, I don't fully understand how to do all the programs and modes and stuff, and I don't need to use all of them anymore, but I have it. and it'll be street is the one where you could something

Zach Plata: Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's always good to have street cred. Is that, is that the one where you could like, play games on it? I remember some people would like play Tetris and things. 

Cassidy Williams: I think you could. I never did cuz I was afraid of breaking it. But I, I do know that you could, like with the t i 83 84 and like 89, you could, you could like plug it into a computer and do stuff.

I do remember. I, I had a teacher that said like, if you can program it, you can use it in high school. Where she was just like, if you can program it, you can use it on like physics tests and stuff. And I programmed. Everything into this graphic calculator, . But the thing is I've realized, wait, this was a trick.

She was just getting us to study by programming it into the calculator, , and I ended up not smart, needing to use all of the notes and stuff that I programmed into it by hand too. Not even on the computer and like installing it like straight up. Mm-hmm. , like all of the letters and everything on. You have to hit like alpha and then the letter, I was doing that for every single letter and programming this thing, uh, dang good times.

Zach Plata: Those are good 

Cassidy Williams: times. Good kids these days don't know 

Zach Plata: what is the most interesting tech that you own, 

Cassidy Williams: so, . As I was digging around trying to find the game boy color, I found something that I find particularly interesting and that is my Google Glass because I was one of those startup rows back in the day.

Oh my gosh. , who walked around and I remember, oh, when I got this, I lived in such a bubble cuz I got this when I was living in Silicon Valley and like it was the cool thing to have Google Glass. And also, I don't know if I can put this. With my headphones, so I'll try while I explain this. But anyway, I thought I was the coolest kid in the world for having this Google Glass.

I'd wear it to meetups where like half the people there had Google glass. You could like swipe on the side and tap and like take a picture and stuff like that. I thought I was the neatest thing. And then I went back to the Midwest and realized, . I had been living in such a bubble. I remember like walking around with it and like strutting my stuff, taking pictures and then being like, oh no, I look like a dork,

Oh, this isn't actually cool. , this is dumb. Uh, that was a real, that was a real growing moment for me. 

Zach Plata: I, I think it was cool. I remember you brought that out in college and I. Oh my gosh, definitely the coolest person in our major that far. 

Cassidy Williams: It was definitely like, again, street cred with nerds, but unfortunately the, uh, the, the, the nerd faction is not as big as one might like to think, uh, when you're trying to.

be cool. . 

Zach Plata: Yeah, I feel, I feel like Google could have done more to make it like more aesthetic looking like regular classes. 

Cassidy Williams: I don't know what you're talking about. I like that it covers all of my eyebrows, so it looks like I could have shaved 'em off. 

Zach Plata: Oh, that. That was a design choice. . 

Cassidy Williams: Yeah. Man, I haven't worn this thing in ages.

It's a flashbacks. Trippy . Anyway, what's some of the coolest tech you own, Zach? . 

Zach Plata: Um, this one isn't actually like a piece of like modern technology, I suppose, but it's one that you introduced me to when I first moved into my house. Um, Ooh. It is. The damper. Yeah, that's, oh, there's no label on it. But, um, I had no idea these things existed where, uh, maybe for those of you who aren't familiar, it's kind of just this bucket and it has these like little sphere.

Ball things inside and it just attracts water. So, you know, maybe you've got like a water leak from somewhere, or there's a lot of moisture in the air. This thing will, the balls will like suck it up and then it turns into water eventually, and then it all just becomes water and it's so cool. , it's, 

Cassidy Williams: it's so cool.

Like, especially in basements and stuff, it, it's just mm-hmm. , it's nice to have just in. there, there's like too much moisture in the air somewhere, and it's like low tech, but also still kind of cool tech. 

Zach Plata: Yes. I was like, oh my gosh, I need this immediately. Yeah. , 

Cassidy Williams: it's a game. It's, it's, it actually has been a game changer.

We have it like in our laundry room and in, in various spots. Mm-hmm. , I should say laundry closet. But 

Zach Plata: yeah. And moving on to memorable guess quotes, so, this season. We've had a bunch of people talk about words of wisdom. Was there a guess for you that particularly stood out that, um, you know, had some interesting stuff to say?

Cassidy Williams: Uh, man, there were so many good ones where I, it's always fun because on this show I pretty much always walked away inspired by something which, I feel so spoiled by saying that, but I particularly was struck by what Ceora Ford had to say just about networking. Mm-hmm. in general. Um, because she came into the industry in 2020 in the pandemic and she didn't have any connections or anything to the tech industry, but she figured it out how to market herself really well, and I think she just did a great job.

Ceora Ford: I use a lot of like content strategy and social media strategy to get myself out there. Um, and then like along the way, you genuinely, it's not just like networking. You genuinely build meaningful relationships with people that like will probably be lifelong. So it's all around a good thing. I think if you can.

it takes time. But if you can find the time to do a little bit every day, 

Zach Plata: like it really helps. It's so awesome to hear that she did that during the pandemic when people like, literally were not meeting in person most of the time and it's, you have to find ways to get your name out there. I commend her and everyone who, who has that ability.

Um, and it really is a skill that you just kind of have to like learn and 

Cassidy Williams: practice. Yeah, it's a muscle you have to build. Yeah. Because it's, it's, it's not really natural to put yourself out there. Like some people find it easier than others, but it's, it's such an important thing to be able to put that effort forth and, and actually put yourself out there so that people can put themselves out there to you as well, and, and build those connections.

And I think that's something that, especially in this digital world, It's more accessible than ever, but also more challenging than ever. Mm-hmm. . And so it's, it's something that you have to work on, but it's, it's worth it, for sure. Yeah, definitely. Zach, whose advice did you resonate with the most for the people who gave advice about getting into the industry and, and for working in 

Zach Plata: general?

Also very tough because everyone had a lot to say about it. Um, maybe one that really stood out is, uh, when we had Julie Yang on, um, and she talked about the importance of prioritizing your work in this kind of hybrid and remote environment. Um, let's take a look,

Julie Yang: Especially in a 

hybrid or full remote work position, people try to demonstrate that they're on the job or that they're working.

And so the most visible way to do this day-to-day ends up being responsiveness, and so people are like always breaking their focus. Time to respond to. Uh, work, um, uh, chat, email, whatever. Or some people just like helping other people and interacting when they're at home with their coworkers through, um, these chat programs.

Anyway, I think it turns out to be like a fire drill kind of way of working where you just work on whatever pops up, um, which I don't think is necessarily the most prioritized way of working. 

Cassidy Williams: I think once again, this advice was really great for the environment that we're working in now. Pandemic slash post pandemic world because there's so much to be said for always being online and always being available and, and being that person who can be just like, yeah, you can ping me at any time and, and I'll respond to you.

But you don't want to constantly that be that person because eventually you will be always prioritizing what other people need of you rather than the way that you like to work and the things that you want to. . 

Zach Plata: Yeah, totally. I, it's something that I think we've all thought about, um, or at least for those, you know, working in re completely remote environments or even semi remote environments where, you know, because you're not seen in an office, you're like, okay, well I need to make myself seen.

So, you know, I look like I'm doing something and I, I look efficient. Um, but it can really be detrimental if you're not prioritizing, you know? Yeah, like your own focus time and heads down work, um, especially when you really need it most. Um, so, uh, it was great to just think about that in a different way.

Um, 

Cassidy Williams: yeah. Yeah. I ended up reading a book soon after we recorded the episode actually called Make Time. And in that book it's, it's one of those productivity books, but also kind of is, it can be broken up and you can kind of read it ad hoc and it's more of like a resource than anything. And. One of the points that it made, which reminded me of this, was that if you treat your inbox as your own to-do list of all the things that you have to do, you end up developing like this kind of unhealthy relationship with being as responsive as you can to all of these people when really you should think of your inbox as your to-do.

For other people, or rather other people's to-do list for you rather than your to-do list for other people, if that makes sense. I know. Yeah. It, it, it was, it was a mindset shift where I was just like, you're right. Just having inbox zero. It shouldn't, like, yes, I like having no emails and kind of having a, a clear mind about things so I can focus on my own stuff.

Sure. But a lot of times when you're answering emails or, or using that as your task list for yourself, it takes away from the work that you might wanna be doing or prioritizing. 

Zach Plata: Yeah, definitely. Mm. I, I, one day I'll get to inbox zero, but this helps me . I know this helps me feel better about my 10,000 whatever, your house.

Don't tell me that Anyway, uh, Cass, uh, what was your favorite piece of advice? Ooh. 

Cassidy Williams: Once again, so many. Um, but I really liked what Charlie Gerard had to say about being your own cheerleader and, uh, especially when it comes to getting promotions. Let's take a look. 

Charlie Gerard: You have to basically be your own cheerleader and track your own work, and, and it's not something I like to do it, it doesn't come naturally to me at all.

But I wish I, I mean, if I had. years ago that it works that way, then I could have, um, grown like that skill as well to promote yourself in a better way. And maybe my career would've been different. Um, and I just wish that we didn't, you know, keep broadcasting that message of like, oh, if you work hard, it's just gonna happen cuz it, it doesn't, and I feel like that's a skill that we should probably teach people as well.

Like how. , um, promote your work in, in, you know, the right way or how to understand how to ask questions in your company to figure out what you should focus on if your goal is to be promoted or all that 

Zach Plata: stuff. Yeah, that's such a good point. Um, you know, it's. It's really an awkward position when you're, you know, just trying to talk about yourself and, uh, right.

You know, create accolades for yourself. But, uh, obviously it goes, it, it's so important when you're trying to move up the ladder and, and, you know, just good to reflect in general on, you know, all the things that you've done. 

Cassidy Williams: Yeah. I tell people this and I, I admit I'm not very good at it myself, but I'm trying to walk the walk and not just talk the talk.

It's good to have some kind of brag doc where mm-hmm. , whenever you do something that goes, well, just write it down somewhere, even if it's just a bullet pointed list of like a post-it somewhere. Just having something that where you can log all the things that you've done. So when it comes time for a promotion, you have details of it or just.

Updating your LinkedIn, the facts that you have everything written down or, or your resume or something, you can use that and, and have something to refer to instead of just being like, what did I do for the past year or two at this job? I 

Zach Plata: don't know. It's really, there's always that saying that's like, I don't even know what I ate for dinner last night, or I don't know what I'm gonna eat for lunch today.

Right. And it's like, . Yeah. You really need someplace to document all the things that you've done or else you're gonna kind of end up in that state of like, oh, what did I do like four months ago that was impactful? Or , you know? Yeah. All that stuff. 

Cassidy Williams: I used to work on a team where at the end of every week we would just write down, these are the things that I did this week in, in a chat room.

Mm-hmm. . I, I would just forget every time I'd be like, I know I worked this week. I worked really hard this week. What did I do? And, and so, Write things down that that's, that's my high level summary there cuz it'll not only help you get promoted, but it'll also help you just remember things sometimes. 

Zach Plata: Yeah, for sure.

Cassidy Williams: Another guest that had a lot of really great anecdotes was Michael Chan. Uh, and I really liked what he talked when he was talking about just being kind in general. 

Michael Chan: You know, something that I learned or I heard early on is, There's a staggering lack of kind people in tech, and I think that there, that's still true.

I think it was maybe more true. Now I think that, that there are just nicer people in the world in general, um, now and I, but I think that this. It's very true that like you can go really far by just not being a jerk and just being someone that people don't hate being around . 

Zach Plata: I, I think that's so important, um, especially in an industry where, you know, Uh, you're working with a lot of professionals and it's, it's an ever growing industry where there's so much knowledge out there.

Mm-hmm. and, you know, a lot of people may not be up to date on, you know, what is the latest, greatest way to do things or what is the latest and greatest tech. It's just, it's good to be compassionate and understand people's viewpoints and where they're coming from. And, um, , it just helps everyone, um, at least from a learning perspective, you know, just grow 

better.

Cassidy Williams: Yeah, and, and in general too, I think a lot of people. , especially like in the Twitterverse and people who are very, very involved in the tech industry. Mm-hmm. and, and like all of the social dynamics of open source, all of these different things. You have a lot of context that not everybody has. And so sometimes people might make jokes or make certain references and stuff where you think it's obvious, but really you end up alienating people who aren't as in the know as you are.

Mm-hmm. . Um, and I think that that is a type of kindness. Bring people in rather than kind of push people out by, uh, being as open as possible rather than like trying to be in the, in crowd with, uh, the cliques that ultimately form around certain technologies and projects. Yeah. And things that are all over the 

Zach Plata: place.

Agreed. And speaking of new technologies, I um, also really liked what Suz Hinton had to say about avoiding fomo when there's so many new tools and new technologies coming out. Um, let's take a look. 

Suz Hinton: Don't jump on the hype train and just try and introduce something you read about on Hacker News like this morning.

Um, you know, . Just things like that. Just like think about what is actually useful, what is something that you know is actually gonna address my needs now. And try to avoid the hype train, try to avoid that feeling of fomo. It's like, oh, well, if I'm not playing with it, then I'm not like, you know, cool or something.

It's just things are gonna come and go and you've really just gotta focus on, you know, the other side of it, which is like who you're building for and things like that.

Cassidy Williams: It's so tempting. to take a ride on the Hype train, express for all of the new tech. And there, there's so many blogs that I've read recently where it's just conflicting viewpoints.

Like, am I stupid for doing this? No, you're not stupid for doing this. Yes you are. No, you're not. And and it's all just opinions and chances are you're not being dumb. Chances are you're just building with what you know, and, and I think. If you're trying to build for an audience, pick the tools that you're comfortable with that you'll be able to maintain and then improve as you go.

And don't just necessarily use the latest and greatest because it's the latest and greatest. 

Zach Plata: Totally agreed. I think there's a lot of like, , latest and greatest comes out. And then there's this period of like people saying, oh, we need to refactor our software to do around all of this. And I know it's in beta, but it's amazing and it's so cool.

And it's like, uh, cool. Well maybe. It's not the most important thing because it's shiny, but you know. Yeah, good, good to play with. Um, yeah. 

Cassidy Williams: It's fun to play with those things when you're just playing with it. But you, you don't necessarily wanna be on the bleeding edge of stuff when you're building something for production because hey, if something goes wrong, there probably aren't.

Stack overflow questions for that. Mm-hmm. You're probably going to be on your own. And so there, there's a lot of things that you wanna take into consideration before jumping on the latest and greatest thing. 

Zach Plata: ChatGPT will not help you in this case yet. 

Cassidy Williams: It has not learned, it's not trained for that

Well, I think a lot of people are going to relate to this next segment because, pobody's nerfect. Nobody's perfect. Oh, and we mess up sometimes . And uh, the difference is our mistakes are recorded, . And so let's take a look at some of the bloopers from previous episodes 

 

Munnawar Hashim: Life changing. My life has changed. I have hair now.

It's wild. . I can, I can pour shampoo. You know it's

Cassidy Williams: So glad that tech gave you hair. Let's make sure to put that into the shampoo somewhere. 

Zach Plata: Yeah. 

Charlyn Gonda: Sorry, my dog is like trying to, trying to get my attention. But . Yeah. Uh, I am very happy that I get to have like a, like a big makerspace workshop at my, at my current place. 

Sara Vieira: And like, okay, I just want you both 

to imagine this, right?

So you're typing something in the terminal and you messed up something like the second . It's incredible. Everyone has to download this. Seriously. I can't recommend it enough. 

I can't rec, I can't, uh, I should have asked if I could curse in here. . ? Yes. Oh God. I was gonna learn how to code and finally they can bleep it, so that's 

fine.

I'll be like, should learn how to code. There's so many jobs, but does it work? Yes. Is it disgusting code? Yes. Did I, one time even gave it to a friend of mine because she needed some code that did the exact same thing and she looked at me and was like, I'm not gonna judge you cuz I'm gonna use it. But what the is that?

Yes. 

Zach Plata: And now it is time for our awesome sponsors to talk about, wait, wait, no, re hold on. And now . And now it is time to hear. God, why can I not talk today? Uh, okay. Now it's time for, and now it's time to hear about our awesome sponsors launch. All right. It's now time to hear from LaunchDarkly. Wait, no, wait.

We're not hearing from LaunchDarkly. I mess this up every time. Okay. Um,

and now it's time for our lovely sponsors, LaunchDarkly.

Um, Okay. Anyway, I'm, I'm gonna try that again. Sorry. Recording people. I messed this up every time. Okay. While speaking of GraphQL and cashing, it's time to

Okay. Okay. Okay. I got, I got it. Okay. And now the last time, oh God. Okay. I

Never . 

Okay. And for the last time, we have our lovely sponsors. LaunchDarkly, let's hear from them. Wait, no, no, no. It's not hearing from them. Let's hear. Um, um, I , I just thought about that. and now a word. No, it's not a word for lunch. I can't do it today. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Uh, I'm turning right now. Um, okay. Um, and now for the last time, time. Mm God. Why could I not do this today? ? Yes. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry,

Okay. Okay. And now for the last time, LaunchDarkly,

I'm so sorry I could . I don't know what's going on. Bye.

Cassidy Williams: Cut. Bye. Cut. See you next time. Bye everybody. Thanks again.

Zach Plata: Cut. All right, and lastly, what is your most used emoji? 

Eve Porcello: Probably the 

emoji where the face is melting into a puddle. That one is used a lot cuz it describes my emotional state accurately a lot and. Uh, also the cowboy emoji. I like a lot. I'll just send that to people without a lot of context and yeah, like mm-hmm.

Cassidy Williams: the cowboy is like,

Eve Porcello: are you all right? No.

Cassidy Williams: I do think it's good.

Oh God.

Eve Porcello: Just try that with your friends. Like just pop that in the chat. Someone you haven't talked to for a couple months. Yeah, just, just that. And , I kind of want to now 

Zach Plata: Yeah, just tweet that and, and see what happens. 

Cassidy Williams: I do think that the cowboy is an underappreciated emoji, though. I kind of, I toss it at the end of sentences sometimes and it's kind of just me thinking like Yeha.

Yeah. And, and it, it's, it's a good time. 

Eve Porcello: Absolutely. It's, there's a lot of action that you can spring into with that. Yeehaw, let's. It's a, it's an active emoji for sure. And a confusing one, so Yeah. Yeah. And that's what it's all about,

Cassidy Williams: I'm dying. Okay. And you should all know that while the clips were playing, Zach was messing up already. it 

Zach Plata: never ends. Love that. Love everything being recorded. Oh my God. I'm still laughing. about the cowboy emoji. 

Cassidy Williams: That one, like 

I, something about the way she said the cowboy stuff. I, I had to like grip onto my chair and stop myself from crying, laughing.

It just, it broke something in me. Yeah. And I've, I've gone back and watched that episode multiple times just cuz I. I couldn't handle it. It was so funny. Yeah. That when, when Sarah was swearing so much like, oh my word. There was some stuff to bleep. I don't even know if we can, it was, it was really funny and I was just like, huh, please, 

Zach Plata: we, we need like a, a Dev Morning Show.

Really late at night. Like explicit version and then we just nice air that episode, just in its raw state. 

Cassidy Williams: Yeah. I hate 

type script and just bleeping 

Zach Plata: at all. Oh my gosh. So good. Um, oh man. What was, what was your favorite blooper? 

Cassidy Williams: Oh gosh. I mean, What was particularly funny were all of the episodes where it was just dogs trying to get their owner's attention or there, there were so many times where someone would be talking, they're like, my dog is scratching at the door.

Could you hang on for a second? Or, that's barking. And that, that happened enough times that I, I appreciate that. It was a frequent 

Zach Plata: occurrence. Oh my gosh. Totally. I actually remember, I forget whose episode it was, but it was the episode where, um, they, we were recording an episode and suddenly they just dropped off the podcast and we were like, what happened

And it was because I think their browser ran out of, they were running an incognito 

Cassidy Williams: browser. Okay. As much as I love this story, wasn't that you didn't, your browser crash?

Zach Plata: That did happen in the last episode. Um, I was, 

Cassidy Williams: Who's that idiot that that happened to? It was me. It's 

Zach Plata: me. Um, it was no, do you remember? It was like they, they open, they were running the, the podcast in, um, recording it in an incognito browser on Chrome. But I think with, for some reason in incognito, uh, browsers, you only have a certain limit on your memory and.

Um, it like stopped the whole recording and then she just dropped off and we were like, what just happened? ? I 

Cassidy Williams: won. I think that might have been Shaundai. Ah, I don't know. But it happened to you most recently. . 

Zach Plata: It did. It did. I am a victim. Um, yeah. Yeah. Love bloopers. Oh God. it 

Cassidy Williams: sounds so funny, but. I think that's all the time we have for the day.

Thank you so much everybody, for tuning in and watching. We've had such a blast recording this season of the show, and we hope to record future seasons. So let us know what you've thought, what some of your favorite episodes were. Uh, Anything that you like or dislike, I guess your favorite joke, all that jazz, but it's been really, really fun getting to hang out with Zach regularly and chat with such awesome guests that we've really just loved hanging out with agreed

Well, that being said, thanks for tuning into the finale. Bye bye. And cut. And once again, because making podcasts is expensive. This show is brought to you by LaunchDarkly LaunchDarkly Toggles Peaks of 20 trillion feature flags each day, and that number continues to grow, and you should use them. You can head over to launchdarkly.com and learn about how.

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